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Post by andrewsmom on Aug 15, 2005 22:12:49 GMT -5
ok... I am having BIG trouble getting Andrew off the bottle. He is now 17 months old. I had all my other children on sippy cups at 8-9 months old. I went on "talk tools" and bought the honey bear cup and other cups to help Andrew make the switch, but he is having NO part of it. I have spent a fortune on cups for him. I honestly have one of every cup on the market in my cabinets. I just went on another web site and they were saying their kids were on cups at 12 months old!! Did I wait too long and now he is set in his ways? Anybody else still using the bottle, or am I the only one? Geez, you know you try so hard to work with them in certain areas, I think I may have skipped some more (or should I say less) important ones. I know I focus so hard on one area at a time, trying to get as much info as I can at a time, maybe that's not the way to go? I don't know. Ok, let me just stop right here before this becomes more of a vent. Sorry guys! - Trisha
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Post by andrewsmom on Aug 15, 2005 22:15:27 GMT -5
oops... I just realized my post says cups and staws and drinking... I meant stRaws!! LOL! I really need to go to bed now!
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Post by Chester on Aug 15, 2005 22:29:13 GMT -5
hmmmm, that's a tricky one. We started using cups and straws along with a bottle early on. Our little guy didn't like the bottle, it was a lot of work compared to the "honey bear". Is he a healthy eater otherwise? You may just need to put the bottles away, and go cold turkey?
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Post by Chris on Aug 16, 2005 6:46:30 GMT -5
I am sure many may disagree but I think 17 months is young to take away the bottle. I wouldn't try to wean him off the bottle until he was able to drink from a cup or straw. Once you know he can, then you can take him off the bottle. BTW, I am a much older mommy and I wait for my child to give me cues as to when she is able to move on to bigger things.
Chris
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Post by ashleysmom on Aug 16, 2005 8:27:15 GMT -5
We started Ashley with gentle sqeezes thru a juice box straw at 10 months and she figured it out after 3 weeks of working with her a couple times a day. We always offered that way first so she would be good and thirsty when we tried. She went right from breast to cup/straw. She gave up breast completelt by 14 months.
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Post by belovedlife2 on Aug 16, 2005 8:57:50 GMT -5
We tried using the honey bear cup/straw combo from talk tools. It allows you to gently squeeze liquid into the straw until your child learns to suck. Truthfully, PEanut sucked twice and never wanted anything to do with it again. Although I know people who it worked wonders for. Right now we are now using a elongated sippy top from Avent. That has no no-spill, she is doing great with it. GOod luck Robyn
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Post by wrblack on Aug 16, 2005 10:09:14 GMT -5
Charlie's SLT used the honey bear and various brushes and devices for oral stimulation early on with quite a bit of success. But I think fast food is what really got Charlie drinking from a straw, McDonald's, Burger King, places like that. We'd take Charlie along with the big, ugly kids. Charlie, early days, would bring a bottle along, but it was a treat for him to get soda from a straw, siphon off soda by placing finger over straw and then tip into his mouth. Don't know what really led to his mastery of the task, but, very delayed in other areas, he's been drinking from a straw since about age 3, I think, maybe a bit younger. Oh, let me go see if I can dig up one of Lynn's old posts. Yep, from 6 Feb 2003, here ya go, << I was going to post this right after the holidays but didn't get a chance, but now seems like a good time since people are posting about their kids getting stared at. On our way back home from Christmas in Alabama we stopped at a McDonalds for lunch. The 3 older kids where off playing video games and Charlie's dad had wandered off and I was sitting at the table with Charlie feeding him his lunch. There was a couple sitting next to us and I noticed that they were watching Charlie. As I looked over at them the husband asked me how old Charlie was and I thought here we go, I'm going to say 3 1/2 and they are going to look at me like I'm nuts. I got just the opposite - the husband smiled at me and told me that he couldn't remember how old his son was when he first drank from a straw but he wasn't nearly that young - he then told me that he had a son with DS who was 35 years old. The husband and wife then continued to tell me what a joy he was (they didn't worry about him nearly as much as they did their other kids) how he was working a couple of part-time jobs and that he had just moved out on his own into a group home. The parents both beamed as they spoke about their son. So, I tend not to have the same reaction anymore when I see people staring at Charlie.
Lynn (Mom to Charlie 3 1/2 DS and his 3 older siblings) >>
Unauthorized snipping, more grounds for divorce. -- Bob
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Post by eltstevens on Aug 16, 2005 10:34:25 GMT -5
We didn't take the bottle away from Travis until he was about 2 1/2. He is not a very good eater so he got most of his calories and vitamins from PediaSure, which he would only drink from a bottle, so I was kinda of scared to take it away. Finally we just had to throw all the bottles away so I wouldn't be tempted to give in and let him have it. Now our problem is he is treating the sippy cup as a comfort tool the way he did the bottle. He thinks he can't go to sleep at night without it.
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Post by Kristen on Aug 16, 2005 11:17:07 GMT -5
I uesd a ton of cups, too. At ten months he started sucking on a straw cup and that was that. Just one of the rubbermaid ones you get at the grocery store worked great because you could put anything in it. The rectangle is easiest to squeeze, btw!
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Post by andrewsmom on Aug 16, 2005 12:04:00 GMT -5
Thanks to all for the support! I'm just going to keep trying. Bob...I'm also going to try to siphon with a straw the way you descibed. I loved the McDonalds story!
-Trisha
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Post by marisa on Aug 16, 2005 18:57:23 GMT -5
We use the Avent bottles and now the Avent sippy cups. All the tops are interchangable so initially we put the bottle nipple on the sippy cup just to get Laura used to picking up the cup, etc. Now she usually only gets her bottle at night. Laura has always been a "leaker" when it comes to drinking, so we only give her the cup when she is in the highchair. She only leaks slightly now with the bottle (actually barely anything), but she leaks more with the sippy cup. Actually, she is quite a messy eater too!! We are going to start introducing the staw soon too with the siphon technique (that is the exact way our ST told us to start)
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Post by Kaylis on Aug 16, 2005 19:31:48 GMT -5
Well, we started Mikah on a straw using the finger over the end, tip it into his mouth technique starting at about 6 months, if I remember correctly. We did it whenever we wanted to give him water (it was summer) or I didn't want to nurse and he was thirsty. It took a long time, since he has oral sensory issues and muscle tone issues there as well. He finally got it at about 11 or 12 months, with lots of dripping. I had been told to avoid sippy cups so we started using the straw no-flow cups once he could suck hard enough. Now, at almost 20 months he's on the second straw in the Talk Tools hierarchy (we've been using them since April with our SLP). It's slow going, but I can see definite improvement.
Good luck!
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Post by andrewsmom on Aug 17, 2005 13:21:31 GMT -5
Kaylis... did anyone say why to avoid the sippy cups? Just curious if there is a reason for that.
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Post by jeannette on Aug 17, 2005 14:42:22 GMT -5
I went out and bought a ton of sippy cups too, from the most expensive to the cheapest ones on the market and MeKyah just wasn't feeling them. She mostly wanted to chew on the tip. Then, I bought the avent sippy cut and it worked. Don't know why I kept looking over avent. She used it like a charm. She was around 13/14 months. If I had of gotten it sooner, she would have been off the bottle before turning 1 cause she wasn't to keen on the bottle anyway. She didn't use the sippy for long because we then started on the honeybear wl straw from talktools. It only took about 2 weeks before she could suck without any help. We also have the straw hierarchy kit and horns #1-#5 from the horn hierachy kit. She can suck from any straw and can use straw #3 from the kit. She can blow from all the horns except for the hamonica(sp). Her tongue thrust has gotten a lot better. She can mimic more and her chinese talk is becoming a little more defined if that makes any since. It used to be more of a baby babble but now it's sounding like she is really trying to tell me something and I just make up stuff as she babbles. You know ask questions and I respond. The horn hierarchy helps with lip closure, speech clarity and articulation.
Susan Rosenburg with Talktools recommended tossing all sippy cups as she believes it hinders their speech. Not sure exactly how she come to this but it's what she says.
Jeannette
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Post by Kaylis on Jan 24, 2007 16:19:17 GMT -5
I was told not to use sippy cups because they encourage different muscles than are needed for speech, whereas straws encourage the correct ones for speech.
Kaylis/Karen
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