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Post by momofrussell on Feb 21, 2006 17:15:39 GMT -5
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Post by Jessie on Feb 21, 2006 18:08:09 GMT -5
Huh, interesting. I'm probably going to be the only one to feel this way, but when I was reading the story all I kept thinking was, this kid is not placed in the right environment. I do believe that he is probably acting out in reaction to what is happening to him, but you have to ask why he needs to be restrained in the first place. Maybe HE is feeling very frustrated being mainstreamed and this is how it's coming out. Maybe the parents are pushing their wants ahead of his needs.
Of course, there's always the other side of the story that maybe the school simply wants him out. Hard to know what the truth is.
Jessie
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Post by momofrussell on Feb 21, 2006 19:06:06 GMT -5
You know Jessie.. I sit on the fence about this for that reason.. there is one side of me that knows this school obviously needs TRAINING and a decent behavioral plan or they will fail the child.. and that is JUST what is happening... and there are plenty of schools that if the child isn't acting like THEY think they should, they don't spend the time they need to with them. Behavioral issues are SUCH a tricky thing.... you need the right loving environment. So.. the fighter in me (we all know her! LOL) says this school needs to get with it and get trained, get what is needed, extensive behavioral plan, ect.. and do what's right for the child... **sigh** Then... there is the other side of me... that felt just like you did when I read this... fight? Why? I think I would be trying to maybe replace my child... seriously.. I thought about this all day... it's SO tough when I really have never been in this situation. Our kids deserve an education and the school NEEDS to step up to the plate.. but maybe it's NOT the place for him.. .maybe it IS the placement... maybe, no matter what training, ect... this child does NOT like it here and the teachers and aides just SUCK and no matter what fighting and whatever... the child should be replaced.. prideful fighting isn't going to do any good.. replacement is better. Then.. there is the basic laws of discipline for children w/spec needs that comes into play here.. above and beyond if this is really appropriate placement or inadequent trained staff. Which is sad in itself. I am told by a friend that instead of the 10 days.. it was now lengthened to 20 days so mom can't even plead her case for 20 days So sad... it's such a fine line... schools have to follow disciplinary guidelines but those guidelines don't always work for kids w/spec needs. SOOO very sad.... A.
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Post by Kristen on Feb 21, 2006 19:48:34 GMT -5
All I keep thinking is sometimes the "right placement" has less to do with the child than it does with the people at the school. You can't make them truly treat him right - to do that would be changing their views and it doesn't sound like that is happening here. This is tough all around.
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Post by momofrussell on Feb 21, 2006 21:03:17 GMT -5
YEs.. that is true Kristen.. and this is what sucks... legally... we can only see placement for what they are.. placement... (when looking for placement options) we are NOT allowed to "teacher shop"... so... if there are 3 programs EXACTLY the same... technically we can't see all three and pick one based on the teacher... I find this EXTREMELY frusterating and wrong.. yes.. there are ways around it.. because I DO teacher shop LOLOL.. but I do NOT let the district know I am But.. this is why... for me, a program is only so good as the teacher implementing it and caring about our kids!!! A.
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Post by CC on Feb 21, 2006 21:20:04 GMT -5
A. ~ I am right there with you on the fence with this one. Sooo hard to really know without knowing the whole story. What makes me cry is the school wants such and such and the parents want such and such and the child pays, least thats how it sounds to me. As always what I believe is finding what works for the child not making the child fit in, KWIM. I am just as proud of my boy that goes to a private school just for ones with exceptional needs as I would be if he were fully included. He is where it works and he shines and that to me is what matters most ;D I personally, just my thoughts here, think schools and parents need to get a better handle on things and I for one am grateful there are options, not just a one way for all. CC
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