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Aug 4, 2009 9:58:39 GMT -5
Post by Googsmom aka Jennifer on Aug 4, 2009 9:58:39 GMT -5
Is anyone an aide in their kids classroom? If so, how did you go about doing that? Thx ;D
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Aug 5, 2009 21:28:20 GMT -5
Post by CC on Aug 5, 2009 21:28:20 GMT -5
NOPE I never was and never would want to be and I can honestly tell you Christopher would not want me to be either ;D LOL Are you thinking of doing it ? CC~
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Aug 10, 2009 12:37:58 GMT -5
Post by faithhope on Aug 10, 2009 12:37:58 GMT -5
Oh I definitely would want to be an aide or somehow involved when/if Noah goes to school. We haven been seriously considering homeschooling. Good luck, keep us posted.
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Aug 10, 2009 13:47:15 GMT -5
Post by momofrussell on Aug 10, 2009 13:47:15 GMT -5
A true "paraprofessional" aide would have to go about applying through the school district and have the education requirements to get the job, at least in our district. I wouldn't expect it any other way. If there are districts that are letting parents be paraprofessionals without schooling or going through the proper channels, more power to them. I think that's not a good thing to do... JMO.
Are you wanting to just help out in class every so often or are you really trying to be a para for your daughter and/or class?
A.
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Aug 10, 2009 14:10:26 GMT -5
Post by Googsmom aka Jennifer on Aug 10, 2009 14:10:26 GMT -5
Just help out sometimes. Right now, in preschool, I can stay when ever I want. I usually don't unless they go to the park, then I stay. I was thinking of when she actually started big girl school. I spose I could call the district and see what they say. I was just wondering. My plan is to go in the other direction and complete the classes to become a mediator for IEP's and also continue being an IEP partner. That starts next year
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Aug 10, 2009 22:46:46 GMT -5
Post by momofrussell on Aug 10, 2009 22:46:46 GMT -5
If you only want to help out in the class sometimes you don't have to go through the district... only if you are wanting some paid job. Parental help is always encouraged at schools and you should just ask the teacher. Each year there is a sign up for helping out in Reece's class.
So, if it's just occasional parental help, go to the teacher and say you want to help out once in a while!
That's not really an "aide", what you are wanting. "Aide" implies a paid job.... Parent helper is what you are talking about.
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Aug 11, 2009 0:42:49 GMT -5
Post by Googsmom aka Jennifer on Aug 11, 2009 0:42:49 GMT -5
Yep, parent helper Does anyone go and be a parent helper? Do you think it distracts the other children when your there? Does your child always look to you for help or does he/she ask the teachers too? Brook's teacher's and myself are in a bit of a pickle. Brook just will not communicate with them. ONLY the aide in class, L, and thats b/c Brook will freeeek out if she leaves her side, even for one minute. We don't know what started this behavior w/ Brooker. We've tried switching up the teachers and L stays. We've tried L leaving for awhile w/ half the class. We've tried to have some other teacher try to comfort Brook. Nothing helps untill L or myself walks through the door. It's becoming a mess. Very draining on the teachers. When Brooker cries, well the whole class has to join in too. Not pretty L, Bless her, is such a kind soul, she just want's to cuddle her but that is not good. I don't want Brook hooked on an aide. She needs to learn to interact and express herself to teachers and it's just been a long haul this past year. L is leaving Brook's school and going closer to home. There will be a new aide this next yr. Same 4 teachers. Hopefully Brook won't get attached and hopefully the new aide doesn't fall for Brook's *charm*. Thank goodness the teachers have known Brook all her life so they already know Brooks anticks....LOL. I'm sorry this turned out like a whine. I'm just Praying for a miracle here. I don't like picking up my girl from school and she's been crying all day. Breaks my heart. I want school to be fun. It used to be fun. When I stay she busts out w/ all the things and words she does/says daily. Teachers are shocked. Why can't we figure out why she won't talk to them. {{{{{HUGS}}}} Any idea's anyone?
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Aug 11, 2009 11:45:06 GMT -5
Post by momofrussell on Aug 11, 2009 11:45:06 GMT -5
Well, if I was the only one or one of the only ones that could comfort my child in the school setting, I don't know if I'd be apt to be a helper in the class just yet I think you guys need to continue to try other ideas before you go in as a helper and rescue your daughter. I know that sounds mean but that's just me... LOL (ask my kids, I am mean LOL) UNLESS you think she is being harmed, don't do it. Ok.... what are the positive/good things they are doing with Brooke? What does Brooke like? I would try to keep on the positive reinforcements. Does Brooke use pictures or anything to communicate and convey her feelings? What about hands on stuff... are the allowing her to be a helper? What about some peer interaction??? Maybe even an older peer, is that an option? Tell me more about her day........ A.
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Aug 11, 2009 22:59:20 GMT -5
Post by CC on Aug 11, 2009 22:59:20 GMT -5
I 100% agree with A, "I think you guys need to continue to try other ideas before you go in as a helper and rescue your daughter"
CC~
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Aug 14, 2009 10:21:32 GMT -5
Post by Googsmom aka Jennifer on Aug 14, 2009 10:21:32 GMT -5
Brook's day consist's of this: Get to school, play(usually doll house), activity, snack, circle time, good-bye song, go home. 2 1/2 hrs. At least thats what the "schedual" on the board says. Somewhere in there she starts to sob. 99% of the time it's when the aide leaves. In the old classroom there was a two way mirror. I only stayed once. I thought she did fine. Old classroom she only sob'd once in 6 months. New classroom, no mirror, bigger room, more kids, more teachers and the sobbing girl I pick up after school, everyday. I'm not trying to rescue Brook from school. If you haven't noticed, I really am kinda a hard a** when it comes to what I know Brook can do, and getting her to do it. She is more than capeable, she can absolutly try it and do it. I'm a booger like that I think back to when these same teachers were her EI therapists and came to the house. Oh she would freeeek out. After 2 yrs of this, every single time, Hub's said enough. Now, she is in school w/ the same teachers. I can't understand this. I thought it would be better if she went to school, out of the house, away from the super watchfull eye of Dad, in a different environment. Something is going on and I just want to know what that is. Is it the teachers? She doesn't do this w/ the therapists at Doernbecker when we see them twice a year. I just want to help Brook. Not help by rescuing her and not make her do her school work, that won't happen...LOL, but just help see what is going on and try to find the solution. Thats all. Like I said, I want this to be the funnest for Brook so she want's to soak up all the good stuff and learn lots of new things. She is always very excited to go to school. Then I pick her up sobbing. Arghhhhhh. I was just thinking that maybe if I hung out there for a couple days I could see what was being her trigger for the sobbing. School resumes in a few weeks. I think we're going to divide the group. There are a few little ones who just turned three and are more on Brooks level. They are quite, just starting to use their words, and haven't had alot of kid interaction. The older kids who are almost four will have their own group too. They can run and jump and yell all they wish and not distract the littler ones. The new classroom has two rooms so this can and hopefully will work. Also, the new aide will be there. I'll Pray like crazy this next round of school is better. Just trying to help Brook be the bestest Brookster she can be and gleen tunz of good stuff from school
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Aug 14, 2009 12:03:09 GMT -5
Post by CC on Aug 14, 2009 12:03:09 GMT -5
Hey Jennifer, K, I think I first misunderstood you. I get now when you said " just help see what is going on and try to find the solution" How about just stopping in different hours during the school day a few days a week just to plain observe. I actually did that a lot when Chris was real young and it helped tons to see what was going on and then I was better able to advise them how to make things work better for Chris. How many students, does Brook need a one one? Are there enough adults in the room at all times that they all can work with Brook and that way she doesn't get attached to just one person, KWIM? Funny ~ in the very beginning when Chris was in preschool and I would go in to observe Chris would see me get up get his back pack with the biggest smile ever and point to the door. He always thought YEA I am going home now LOLOL But he learned real quick that was not the case Only took him a few times of seeing me pop in that NOPE didn't mean a free pass to get out of school LOLOL You said "She is always very excited to go to school. Then I pick her up sobbing" K, just wondering since she always loves to go that is a GREAT thing, maybe she is tired at the end of the day, hence the sobbing? Another thought do they ever video what goes on during the day, so you can see? Going in to observe is a GREAT thing, I thought you meant you wanted to be Brook's one on one and my thinking on that was not a good idea. I get what you mean now Just another thought, just throwing them out there in case you might like one of them If seeing you in the class room now and then say might upset Brook or more say distract Brook, is there anyone you know and trust real well that could go in and observe and advise you on what exactly is going on? Reason I ask is I use to have an advocate that actually would due that for me at times and Lots of great info came of that. BEST of Luck girl and wishing Brook the BESTEST school year
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Aug 14, 2009 20:26:29 GMT -5
Post by Chris too on Aug 14, 2009 20:26:29 GMT -5
I dunno how you're going to solve this one, but I just know you will. I do have some encourageing info tho. Stevie didn't talk in class at all, though she talked to the therapists (she knows them well), hardly a word in class - until the last few weeks of school. I was worried that she'd forget and regress over the summer, but it seems not. She's talking to the bus driver at least - she's only had two days this school year, so I haven't heard from the teacher. But Stevie offered up the information that she saw Miss Judy (teacher's aid) when I asked about Miss Valerie (teacher). "Jess (yes), Miss Judy too!" very cute. She has been talking so much more at home and in more and more complex sentences and questions, so I imagine that she's just getting more comfortable with her skill and is sharing it more with those outside her close family circle. Now if we could just get her pronouncing "r" and "l" we'll be cookin'
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Aug 15, 2009 1:07:59 GMT -5
Post by Googsmom aka Jennifer on Aug 15, 2009 1:07:59 GMT -5
I think thats what i'll do. Just ask if I can stay one day (or three LOL) and see what is going on. If the teachers are coming to me for help, then they should let me watch the going's on in class to try to help Brook, and the teachers and the class. None of the parents will care if i'm there. They know me and know i'm just looking out for the class. I'm first there and last to leave. I want to know the parents of the children Brooker hangs with at school. (Yes, I do the same thing to Mary LOL) Everyone needs to be happy at school and if just a little bit of observation is needed to find the "trigger" then it's a win/ win for everyone Remember, the other little kids start sobbing too if Brook does and vise~versa. CC, there are 2 teachers and L (the class aide) in class always. Now they might alternate and a new teacher will join the class one day. There have been up to 4 teachers and L on some days. One constant teacher is Brook's OT who has known Brook all her life. I think Brook was 2 weeks old when we met C. I like her. She pushes Brook to try new things. Knows she can do it. Frustrated that sweet Brook won't share her knowledge with her. Been that way always. Silly kid That's why I started video of Brook doing everything. C *believed* me that Brook was doing this or that, but really wanted to see it. Video, Yeaaaa, video So now she will take my word for it. I'm just trying to make sure were all on the same page, them teachers and myself Oh, there could be up to 11 kids in class. Some days only half that show up. Just depends. Thx for the comfort here girls. I'm telling ya, your the only one's who "get it" {{{{{{UNO}}}}} Chris too..... I'm lovin'n them pigtails too. What a great photo
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Aug 16, 2009 12:08:55 GMT -5
Post by momofrussell on Aug 16, 2009 12:08:55 GMT -5
Well, I couldn't get a good "feel" for where you were headed with this post that is why I threw out the "don't do it to rescue her" kinda thing That is why I asked more of what you were trying to acheive because from your original posts, I was thinking something and you were saying another So, she is crying and coming home crying and although you can't pinpoint what it is, you think it's if the aide leaves her side? Am I on the right track now? LOL I appologize if I am asking questions to things you already posted (I should be cleaning but yet I am on here LOL) but have you asked why she is crying? I think observing is a great idea. BUT... I would also encourage you to use the schools resources and possibly have soneone else not already in the class, like a behavior specialist kinda person, to come in and observe. If Brooke sees you in class she may not "perform" as she is when you are not there. Unless you can effectively oberserve without never letting her see you. But I might be inclined to have a different set of eyes observe even if you are.... because I think you all could effectively work as a team for a solution if you have someone observe above and beyond you observing. I mentioned how they are having her communicate her wants and needs there.... what are they using? Are they using pictures? Have you all maybe thought about some social stories and trying to explain to Brook the job of the aide and when the aide has to leave. Maybe if she thinks/knows something else (comforting) is going to happen when the aide leaves that might help. I personally think once everyone works together in finding out what is the cause of this all it will be an easy fix. What does the teacher say? Russell's class/teachers are good at telling me what lead up to the moment and what they are going to do to fix it. Make sure they are doing that or encourage them to work with you to do that. Good luck! A.,
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Aug 16, 2009 17:04:03 GMT -5
Post by Googsmom aka Jennifer on Aug 16, 2009 17:04:03 GMT -5
{{{{HUGS A}}}}}} I thought you were school shopping LOL
The teachers use every form/way of communicating I can think of. Brook, the silly kid, will not do any of them. No signs, words, pec's....nothing. She does fine with the aide, L and a few kids. SHe will sit and participate but very rarely does a word quietly slip out.
When they have park day I stay and her teachers just cant believe what she does when i'm there. I have been told before by them that if they didn't know Brook, and had not seen video of her doing all kids of things, they would think Brook didn't know anything. Sad, but from the teachers eyes, that is the case. SHe just will not share her knowledge. *pulling my hair out* LOL.
She sob's at school and stops the minute I get there. Uggg....
I think it's a GREAT idea to have an unbiased person in the class. If it was me or one of the Aunties, Brook would want cuddled and them Aunties would do it too..LOL. I can't send Hub's either. If he knew Brook was sobbing at school, OMG, that would be bad.
Thx. {{{{{HUGS}}}} I'll look into this. Maybe he/she can shed some light on this for us.
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