DIAPER changes in school/ insight????

[jelanismom]

Us again, another horror story in the making...I'm sorry to have to ask you guys about this...should be an absolute given... I can't understand it, but Jelani's been coming home with EXPLODING diapers of pee!!!!! (ask Googsmom) and it makes absolutely NO SENSE! I've called his teacher about this and it's still happening. My son is NOT being taken to the potty on a regular basis even though the teacher writes in the communication book that he "peed" a little on the potty. My little guy is non verbal and needs help pulling his pants down...but they let him go all day with a SOAKED ready to EXPLODE diaper???!!!
Then some days he comes home and he's completely dry like they probably changed him RIGHT before leaving and the whole day he was "probably" wearing a diaper filled with pee? I mean he'll come home off the school bus and his diaper is blown up and totally saturated down to his kneecaps!!! I feel sick to my stomach that they allowed this, my poor little guy! What should I do except to have it written in his IEP? (got an addendum meeting on 3/4) should I show up every day to watch them and make sure they take him to the potty?

I'm hoping to hear some advice from you guys! thx
D~

[Renee']

I would make sure it is written in the IEP that they toilet and change him so many times a day. Then bring a notebook in with day/time/name of who did it. Make sure you tell them of the way he is coming home. They should be doing a much better job.

[Emilysmom]

Not only should the teacher or assistant be taking Jelani to the potty more often....but when he doesn't pee on the potty and ends up with a wet diaper, it should be changed promptly. If the diaper is drenched, he's been sitting in a wet diaper too long. They can do better. They should do better. I'd talk to the teacher. Maybe you need a specific plan for how often he needs to be taken to the potty, etc.

Susan

[Googsmom aka Jennifer]

I absolutly agree!!!!!

[Connie]

Ok....Devils Advocate here.

I agree with Susan about needing he have in place a schedule about when he needs to go potty.

But a thought on coming home with a wet diaper. Before I took Collin completely out of pull-ups, he would wake up completely dry in the morning I would take him to the potty...he usually just dribbled but as soon as I put a pull up on him and turned my back or put him on the bus man o man he would let go....soaked that thing until it could not hold any more liquid and it hung between his knees....like I was a bad mom and not changing him in the mornings. Which was not the case.

I took me for ever to teach him how to completely release his bladder....I would have to put him on the potty and make him set there to make sure he emptied it completely.

Just the devil!!!

Connie

[Kristin]

I'd also agree that it may be that the bladder isn't completely empty. My daughter used to go on the potty then promply wet or poop in her pull-up within minutes of getting off. We used to give her a book when she sat on the potty. It kept her there longer, and when she'd relax, she'd go more. If my daughter wasn't changed often enough, she broke out in diaper rash...so I could tell the difference. Funny thing, there were a few times the school called and complained about her arriving with a soaked diaper...the same situation in reverse!

[Emilysmom]

EXCELLENT point, Connie!! Makes sense.......especially if he is only going a small amount into the potty. Could be!

Susan

[damarasmom]

I think that no matter the reason for why he is so wet, he should not have to sit in such a soaked diaper! I would raise my voice until they corrected this problem.

[jelanismom]

thanks all, yep come tuesday (monday's holiday) I'll be on the phone, nope...second thought...I'll take jelani to school myself and have a friendly but firm chat with the teacher, aids and make it perfectly clear that jelani needs to be changed more often... simply taking him to the potty won't insure he'll be dry... a random check (ok scheduled) of his diaper status is a given must, no matter how busy they are...it's a mandetory thing in my book....a hygene issue too...if his little butt gets a rash they'll probably just blame it on me~?
btw-thanks mom's for the non-pee releasing completely from bladder point...but, whatever his bladder control issues are...he simply needs to be checked/changed/taken to the potty! and that way he won't have to be sitting in pee......thx for all your advice and it WILL be written in his IEP come March 4th...

isn't it a shame that something so important that should be a "given!" has to be written in his IEP? sheesh, it's like writing to "make sure you put my son on the bus so he can come home" or "don't forget to feed him his lunch" or heh, "remember to bring my son back to class when recess is over and don't just leave him there rule!" LMAO you know I'm a little stressed lately. Thanks again.

[ALLISA]

Toileting is a HUGE issue and there could be any number of reasons why his diaper is wet....and it sounds like you will work hard to resolve it.....but I have to throw in another possibility.....frequent excessive urinitation is also a sign of type 1 Diabetes.....Chances are that is NOT what your case is.....BUT......I know plenty of moms of toddlers who said their children soaked & exploded through diapers at diagnosis. It would also go hand in hand with frequent and excessive thirst.....if you don't have both......then yup.....it's just school not doing as they should......

I had an ex who used to do the same !!

Good luck and I hope it gets resolved soon !

[Betty & Ian's Mom]

Sorry you're going thru with Jelani not being changed, I would be ticked off too!!

I made sure that Betty's teacher, aides, school nurse and Principal know that she is in the mist of potty training and also has bouts of diarrhea(which the they all know of her situtation), and they do change her diaper and bring her to the toilet and sometimes she does come home with a damp diaper, but I figure she went on the bus ride home.

If I were you, I would definitely make a trip to the school and have a chat with them and firm yet not thingyy type and let them know since Jelani is non-verbal that they check him at least every half hour so he's not sitting in a diaper full of urine.

[twosomy21]

we just had a potty goal added to lorens iep. the school took him routinly but there has to be a difference because it is written now and the goal is going to be measurable from now on-still in trainers and diapers due to the flu thing but the concepts there. talk with the staff and place the goal for potty . i know loren has come home wet and the bladder thing makes sense,kyle does that but you need to know if they place him on the bus dry or wet- explain to them your concern with tryng to get him to be independant .good luck

[damarasmom]

I don't think you should have to put in the IEP, it SHOULD be a given. Just good ole common sense! DUH!!
Anyway...when you go on Tuesday...PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU PARK IN A GOOD PARKING SPOT! LOL...They are looking for you!! TeeHee

[momofrussell]

LOL about the parking advice

Ok...we had this issue once in the beginning of 1st grade. We had a new teacher and new paras and I guess the paras never did diapers LOL So the teacher and I had a good laugh and the paras had to have "diapering 101" He came home with the whole diaper all disgusting and all down his leg.... it was gross.

Now.. I can totally see what Connie is saying. For us that was never the case but I CAN see that happening. Russell can pee on the potty AND fill a diaper pretty darn quick let me tell ya. Russell's bladder is still very immature and with his cognitive delays one wrong move and the diaper is FULL. BUT... I can say that with (almost) 10 yrs of diapers, I have learned the difference between a "full" diaper and a "neglected" diaper. I truly think there is a difference. Regardless, either way, it needs to be addressed just so everyone is on the same page on what to do with Jelani and toilet training. I am sure if you sit together and figure out why it's happening you can figure out how to handle it

A.

[Pat]

I had one child non-DS that would not empty completely. You had to say try again... until you heard no more. She finally got it. LOL
Pat