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Post by twosomy21 on Apr 11, 2008 11:59:07 GMT -5
kyle is in a new class this yr. he had always carried acdemic goals in his iep with minimal sucess. he is strong sociall, which is good because i feel once he masters feeling independant the rest will come. and he is ten writes his name(left out the y and now adds it but writes the name wrong )any who had a pre meeting with teacher and assis. principle .the prin. starts off by saying"i need you to understand we are not dropping a social goal to add an academic goal(this is all because kyle met one of his social goals,he has 4) so my horns were growing and i said kyle is strong socially he will have 3 more goals in place and he is showing interest in reading so this is where were at. she states we will not replace a social goal with an academic one-i state yes we will because there is a need, and this is what he needs.......... she states that is mixing apples and oranges? wow talk about confrontation before my cup of joe and starts telling me her concerns related to kyle i stopped her and said i am his mom and the concerned one here, me and his current teacher talk alot and she inturrupts me to say i talk to kyle alot and i feel he is not strong socially. i told her listen we will implament the academic goal and maybe i am using the wrong wording or something but this social goal is gone.she said something about speech and i told her yes, speech is something he has had since age 3 and you know what maybe its as good as its going to get so i need to move on. i am not sure if i made the right choice and feel i need to play the search game again. i did have a talk with his teacherand we will remeet again-just need some input. the teacher explained her views and although they are good,they are just for social awareness for the ds population. she said kyle will not be competing academiclly so it does not make sense to teach this, i told her he will reach his threshold of learning but i have oblagations too.gotta go but sorry for rambaling
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Post by lespring on Apr 11, 2008 12:55:29 GMT -5
I guess I don't really get what you're saying. The social part of the IEP and the academic part of the IEP are totally separate areas, and separate goals. They don't relate to each other. He should have both social goals and academic goals on his IEP> (and academic goals would be devided)
So, his academic goals would be divided into reading, math, social studies, etc.
His social goals would be things like, "Greets friends with a handshake" or, "Says hello when meeting familiar people in the hallway." (sorry, I'm just pulling stuff out of my brain for examples.)
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Post by twosomy21 on Apr 11, 2008 14:15:32 GMT -5
i suppose i will write his goal in the srea of academics-i think it was the wording i was missing. the princ. did say we will provide an academic goal but not in place of social goals. so kinda the iep keeps growing. i always remember the past iep meetings and intergrating goals with bench marks not emphazising(sp.) their order, just having a balance according to the need. so the reason i became defensive was because this is a social class and it would not work for us if they were not willing to add academic goals. i need iep 101. thank leah
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Post by Googsmom aka Jennifer on Apr 11, 2008 21:21:00 GMT -5
www.wrightslaw.com Said it before and i'll say it again, I love love love this sight. I just got my book From Emotions to Advocacy that ~A~ recomended and I think it's super!! I just started I can already tell it's just what I needed Although i've been dealing w/ IEP's for many years now w/ Mary, it is, i'm finding, ALOT different than what i'll be dealing w/ when Brookster goes to school. Good luck to you BTW, what does this mean ? "they are just for social awareness for the ds population. she said kyle will not be competing academiclly so it does not make sense to teach this"
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Post by jelanismom on Apr 12, 2008 1:35:11 GMT -5
Oh my, I need a cup of joe myself but it's way too late for it! I was reading your wonderful meeting you had and "growing horns" is classic! I need to borrow that one from you! But I can't quite grasp what you were saying is going on with the IEP academic/social goals...I'm really new at this. But whatever Leah and J~ said sounds good to me...One thing I know FOR SURE is that when Kyle came up to me at the Zoo when Jelani and I first walked over, and for having just met me for the first time, let me tell ya...that kid was talking to me and telling me about the gorillas he wanted to see and was pointing out where in the park we needed to go to see them...he in no way has social issues in mybook...but I'm a big old person, lol, maybe they're meaning kids his age right?
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Post by ALLISA on Apr 12, 2008 17:44:23 GMT -5
It almost sounds like you or the staff have some pre-concieved notion of a quota of goals....like there is only a set number of goals and some are academic and some are social and they can't outnumber each other. A child can have a hundred goals.....pretty unrealistic, but there is no set number on how many goals are allowed on an IEP....so there should be no need to "replace" a social with an academic......maybe she was trying to say that because he hadn't met the other social goals she was going to keep them in place ? And whatever academic goal you have in mind can certainly be added, but not at the expense of social goals.....they ALL should still be there and can all fit nicely with each other. Hope you all get to the bottom of it....I'm thinking that there is just a miscommunication and in fact....all goals will be in place.
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Post by momofrussell on Apr 14, 2008 12:48:40 GMT -5
Sooooo did it get cleared up? A "social" goal is the same as a "functional" goal. On and IEP it states present level of performance for academic AND functional levels. So... you definately have both kinds of goals and yes, not any set number. Just curious if this all got cleared up yet? A.
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Post by lespring on Apr 15, 2008 21:46:27 GMT -5
A...Angela has two separate pages on her IEP for "social" and "functional" goals. Her functional goals are all about things like being able to open the milk cartons or other lunch packaging, (which could also be an OT goal, but we don't have it there.) and stuff like that which I'm now blank on what else we have there. LOL Her social goals are things like Attending a girls social group, or working with a peer on small non-academic related projects, etc.
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Post by momofrussell on Apr 16, 2008 10:27:08 GMT -5
Yes.. that is a good thing Leah! I think most of Russell's goals are "functional" rather then academic just because of who he is...but a few could be construed as academic LOL
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Post by twosomy21 on Apr 18, 2008 12:54:27 GMT -5
well, i spoke with kyles teacher and we are going to set up a meeting and i think the prin. forgave my nueroticness(sp) is that a word? well i also have a meeting on the 16th for lorens future in the fall. i look farward to all these meetings ,if anything eles it lets the teachers know that i am involved.. it is scary thinking your not doing enough-and then i read that chris(on another post) goes into the store on his own and how proud his mom is and maybe this is enough? sorry i get too weird-
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Post by momofrussell on Apr 18, 2008 13:20:09 GMT -5
Isn't it some prerequisite to parenting that we will ALWAYS feel we aren't doing enough A.
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