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Post by meghans_mom on Jul 22, 2004 9:00:23 GMT -5
Hey all....
Meghan has had glasses since Feb or March. She's been doing pretty good w/ them except for occasional instances of throwing (usually when they're dirty). We recently had to replace the 1st pair because matthew took them from her and totally ruined them! anyways -- she's been throwing then tons these past few days. I don't know if it's "behavior" or if it's because the glasses are bothering her. I'm trying to be calm and not make a big deal when she throws the glasses so if it is attention getting behavior, I'm not encouraging it.
Her eye seems to be crossing more these past few days which could indicate the (a?)stigmatism is getting worse, or it could be because she hasn't been wearing the glasses as much. (her eyes don't cross w/ the glasses on that I've noticed)
so my long-winded question is... for those of you w/ glasses or children w/ glasses as you've gone on to a stronger prescription did your current glasses bother you? Like to the point where you didn't want to wear them?
I'm going to call for an appt in the meantime but was just looking for opinions. thanks. laurie
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Post by Alice on Jul 22, 2004 10:10:11 GMT -5
Hi Laurie, I can feel for you. Luke has his glasses for more than 2 years, and he is doing this a lot. Frankly, I am very tired, sad, and mad about that. The reasons (we think) why he is doing that are: 1. getting attention, 2. showing us his dislike about something, or 3. glasses need to be corrected or adjusted. I think you are doing right thing to start with glasses check up. Good luck to you, Alice
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Post by Becky on Jul 22, 2004 10:52:05 GMT -5
Justin has had glasses since he was 4 months and he is 4 now, he will throw them off for a few reason 1. tried of having them on 2. he really started throwing them so we went to he doc and he siad they were to strong for him and probably giving him head aches so he changed them and he doesnt throw them much anymore Becky
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Post by Betty & Ian's Mom on Jul 22, 2004 12:21:57 GMT -5
Betty does the same thing to ! Loves to throw pretty much anything she can get her hands on. But the glasses get thrown alot more than anything!! I try to keep them on her, but they end off somewhere, she wears them more at therapy than any other time. How do you get them to keep glasses on??
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Post by momofrussell on Jul 22, 2004 12:31:16 GMT -5
Well, Russell wore glasses since birth due to cataract removal surgery. He threw them LOTS... It really took him a few years before he realized what the glasses were for. After that, he kept them on unless he was bored or in the car. (downtime) Our Ped Opth also says he sees LOTS of kids w/DS and it seems chidren w/DS tend to take their glasses off lots more than any other child he sees... he didn't really know why.. but he is at the children's hosp so he does see lots of kids. I would assume that for some of them, it's a sensory issue.. and others just don't want those darn things on thier faces. Or shear boredom... nothing they see stimulating them. And yes, it is a phase for some too.
I always suggest maybe doing some activities together i.e. puzzles or whatever keeps her attention WITH the glasses on. With you there and doing the activity together, it may lessen her need to throw them. Keep her interest going WITH the glasses on, and then for down time, take them off... so she knows when she can and can't take them off. We went through a couple years of Russell throwing his... we would just keep putting them on.. and sometimes we just said To HECK with it! I would always tell our Ped Opth and they said to encourage it, but for Russell, if he wasn't going to do it, I wasn't going to force it and make my days miserable....
Also, I think kids that can see pretty good without them but still need them, tend to want them off too. After Russell had his lens implants at 4.5 yrs old, he was to still wear glasses after that.. but it was like a +1 on one side and nothing on the other side... so for him, he knew he could now see without them pretty good so he would take them off.
Why is your daughter needing them? Oh and i don't think a Stigmatism causes crossed eyes... I know Ambliopia and/or Strabismus.. but not a Stigmatism... I could be wrong though...
good luck.. it can be very frusterating...
A.
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Post by Betty & Ian's Mom on Jul 22, 2004 13:30:36 GMT -5
If I could only remember the medical names for them HMMMM!!!
Strabisms (SP??), she has a very lazy eye, they cross, and giggle alot and she is very near sighted to. She got her glasses in March, and seems to be doing pretty well with them. The problem I have with her is she will only wear them at therapy or when we go out, but at home she won't have nothing to do with them, I'v tried directing her attention to toys or something, but she's so darn smart, she'll take them off before I can distract her !!
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Post by rickismom on Jul 22, 2004 14:52:51 GMT -5
Ricki got her first glasses at age two- she used to throw them a lot, but since about age 5or six she's stopped. Maybe she is bothered by wearing glasses in the summer heat which mike make them more uncomfortable?
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Post by momofrussell on Jul 22, 2004 16:27:31 GMT -5
Yes, Strabismus is realated to the deviated eye and can be caused by many things... one of which is Amblyopia which is when one eye works better than the other due to different medical reasons. Russell has BOTH Amblyopia (due to the cataracts that were removed at birth) and Strabismus... Amblyopia is considered "lazy eye" and not the Strabismus... you can have both or just Strabimus... Also, Kerrguns, you mentioned giggly eyes? Jiggly? That would be Nystagmus... something Russell has also You name it, Russell's eyes have it :lol A.
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Post by meghans_mom on Jul 22, 2004 21:44:15 GMT -5
Meghan has a stigmatism in her eye and is also far-sighted...I was under the impression that the stigmatism was causing the crossed eye (it only crosses occasionally...like when she is tired) but maybe it is the far-sightedness -- I'll double check w/ the eye doc when we get there. She definitely does not have amblyopia and it's not really a true strabismus, either. Because he said the crossing was not like a child having a crossed eye - I don't know - the dr is so cute I have trouble hearing what he is saying, LOLOLOL. anyways - thank you for all your suggestions...I'll have to ask if she's keeping them on in school. That will be a big clue to whether or not it's attention she's looking for. I'm also going to bring the glasses back to the optician and have them re-check the prescription, since I won't be able to get an appt w/ the eye doc for a few weeks I'm sure, thanks again, all! laurie
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Post by christie on Jul 22, 2004 22:15:33 GMT -5
Awwwww LAURIE, I can relate. Chris too went thru a phase of throwing and hidiing his glasses, so we just got two pair and put the other one on till we found the one he threw/hid He got over it THANKFULLY but I have to share one time OMG. We were out to eat at our favorite Hot Dog place and he was just a tiny guy and took off his glasses and threw them across the room, I just screamed "Heads UP, everyone" OMG LOLROF BUT you will be happy to hear he only did that once, LOLOL He now and has for a very long long time kept them on and asks for them frist thing in the AM and actually falls asleep with them on. CC
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Post by snickers71801 on Jul 23, 2004 2:36:51 GMT -5
Reminds me very much of Taby. She will not wear her glasses at all. I cant keep them on her at all. She has broke two pairs of them. She acts like she can't see through them anyhow. Which brings up a question. She was seven months old when she got the glasses. She has astigmatism in both eyes, supposably. But I have noticed, when she does have the glasses on, she has a hard time, like she can't see. She looks above them or underneath them. Then after a little bit, she will throw them off. I tried many things with her to keep them on, the little bungie around the back of the head, the ear extender things, and just plain hollering at her to keep them on. I dont know what to do. I need to find an eye doctor around here in Cedar Rapids. Any suggestions? The doctor we were seeing before, we went in there for a visit and I expressed that we had problems keeping them on and that I didn't think that she could see out of them. (Even when they are clean) He got really rude with me and told me that she had kept them on the whole time that she was in his office, that I just had to keep her more occupied and she would keep them on. He also said that I had to keep them cleaner. I was so mad. He was in his office a matter of about 60 seconds and could give me that assumption. I had been holding her hands for the first 45 seconds of it. He made me so mad. As soon as he left she had them off. At that point, I decided not to force her to wear them. I think she sees just fine. When she has them on, she seems like she is messed up when she reaches for things, so I really dont think that she can see out of them. Now I am very leary about going to another eye doctor. He made me feel like a horrible parent because I can't hold on to her hands the whole time that she is awake. What do I do? ? Please help!!!!!!
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Post by meghans_mom on Jul 23, 2004 7:44:50 GMT -5
Taby's mom - sorry you're going through this too - but in reading all these posts it seems we're not alone! I would definitely bring your daughter to a different eye doc - is there a support group (for DS) in your area that might be able to recommend a different pediatric eye doc, or maybe your pediatrician or therapists can recommend one. It's really a pain in the behind, I know - and I feel bad complaining about it because I know there could be worse issues I could be dealing with - but if Meghan is supposed to be wearing the glasses, then I want her to wear them. Especially if the stigmatism can be corrected -- she may not need the glasses eventually. anyways - good luck and let us know what happens w/ the new eye doc!
CC - lol at the eye glass tossing at the hot dog place...I think it should be new Olympic event, I think meghan could definitely medal in it...lololol! laurie
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Post by shellk on Jul 23, 2004 9:48:16 GMT -5
When Kourtney first got her glasses she hated to put them on. She has a pretty flat bridge on her nose and I got the glasses that can really be twisted around and not break. Well, she would wear them for about 20 minutes at a time and then take them off. At first I thought they were to strong, and made her feel strange wearing them. Now she wears them but will not keep them one any longer than an hour at a time. We, have no problems with the throwing, maybe because they ar a little stronger than the last ones they are making her eyes feel like they are pulling, I know when I got my last pair that my eyes hurt for a a little while I had to get me eyes adjusted to wearing them...Maybe that is it...
Good luck Michele
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Post by Robin on Jul 23, 2004 10:15:47 GMT -5
throwing glasses, ahhhhh Chase is one of the best glasses hider and thrower there is but there is hope, he has gotten so much better at it! (LOL I mean at keeping them on!!!!) We have five pairs of glasses and at the current time there is only two pairs in operation. He has the tendency to bite off the nose piece and swallow it (I am sure it is frustration) and then toss them. We have gotten him to wear them alot by saying he can see the TV much better if he has his glasses on and it has worked, also when he is on the computer or reading. The glasses must have helped alot, (he got them when he was seven oreight I think) his eye which was so bad no longer turns in even the tiniest bit, YEAAAAAA ;D The lastest episode with his glases was him burying them inside a cement brick and filling it with dirt. They were missing for about a month and by some small chance his little brother took his cars and went to play and it happened to be that very brick and while happily digging he dug up those brand new glasses and brought them to us!!!! Yea to the little brother!!!!!!The big problem seems to be once he takes those glasses off he has no idea what he did with them or wher they went! LOL but it is getting better, honest! Now we no longer let him wear them outside nor in a car where he can put the window down (you dont even want to know what he did there)Just keep saying...it will get better it will get better and honestly when they realize how they can truely see so much better with them on, they will start wearing them more, I promise ;)hugs, Robin
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Post by meghans_mom on Jul 23, 2004 10:39:12 GMT -5
Oh Robin - Chase stories just make me smile so much..although I guess at times you aren't smiling when they happen :-D burying them in dirt inside a brick...very clever, Mr Chase! LOL! Meghan tends to throw hers in the sink, which is Ok when there are no dishes in there - but that's a rare occurance in my house! Last time they went missing it was actually *MY* fault! We were on our way out and I had them tucked into my shirt and I ran down to the basement to change over the laundry before we left -- we go and I realize I don't have her glasses but I was sure I had had them w/ me when we left so I was freaking that we had lost them. So I'm looking everywhere, retracing my steps and they're no where....I'm thinking d*mn...there goes another $400 for a new pair. Finally I re-check everything (this is now midnight) and find them...at the bottom of the garbage can in the basement...the one where we throw the lint stuff from the trap in the dryer. anyways -- thanks all for sharing your stories & support!! laurie
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